It's dwarves, not dwarfs, you blasted... ah, crap, Disney and I are already starting off on the wrong foot, aren't we? Screw it, I'll assume it's just some sort of holy crap this movie is like 80 years old. Grandpa just turned 84 last week. Wow this is gonna be a thing.
Anyway, they actually did cancel school and the power's holding out, so let's have us a movie!
So normally this is the part where I say what I know about the movie, but come on folks it's Snow White, I think we all know how it goes. Lady moves in with seven short guys because of stepmother issues, has fruit allergy, story provides terrible role model for young girls regarding consent issues and then they all live happily ever after, except for the stepmother who has to live with the fact that her inability to prepare Halloween treats properly means the fairest of them all is gonna be goading her with Christmas cards from a shiny new castle with a handsome new fella.
So instead of what do I know about the movie, let's take this time to do what do I know about Disney!
• Big company. Manufactures Cyruses of the Miley variety.
• Yes that's right they somehow make people. It's also probably creepy when you think about it.
• Big in animation. If you see an animated film apparently it's probably Disney. Whereas if I see an animated film... well before today at least, it definitely has not been Disney. Not according to my readers and the people on RPGnet, anyway.
• Songs!
• Animation!
• They like princesses. There's one with big floopy pants and one who sings Let It Go and some others who dress up differently and I don't know anything about them. Lot of princesses. Like Snow White, for instance!
• Mickey Mouse!
• Donald Duck!
• There is a Land or World or Place that is of Disney. People like to go there.
• They have a movie called Frozen. It was a little bit popular.
• There are about 20-30 or so movies in what Roomie and Lacy both call the "Disney animated canon" so that's the tag I'm going to use. Guys that's so many films how am I even gonna do this
• Everyone knows like every film and what the hell planet did I grow up on
Anyway, enough dallying, I'm getting glares from next to me, so let's get a move on :D
A Walt Disney Freature Presentation
AND THE CHOIR GOES WILD...
Heh, music reminds me a LOT of old movies oh nice there's a little dedication from Mr. Dinsey
I like this music, it's pretty chill
Which is good because there's a whole lot of credits going on here. Know what I liked from Star Washutting up now, there's a book
Kind of waltzy now
Scullery Maid, eh? Alright then
EACH DAY the vain Queen consulted her Magic Mirror why am I READING A MOVIE
Castle and foreboding strings and descending I found a queen and a mirror
The farthest space, eh? A galaxy far, far away?
WELL then that's a face in a mirror annnnnd we're talking like poems
ALAS FOR HER.
SHOCK. SNOW WHITE IS PRETTIER? WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED
Not me where are these peoples' noses
There's something amok about this animation
Ah there's her nose and we're singing about wishing
...the nice things he'll say. And now we have a prince trespassing over a wall and she's singing a duet with a puddle
SURPRISE SONG STEAL
that's a yes, bud
There's something very opera about this
that must suck, I couldn't live with just one song
oh hey look she really is wearing rags and she's got dove familiars.
OHOHO SOMEONE IS ALL KINDS OF NOT IMPRESSED
LOOK HOW ANGRILY I CLOSE THESE CURTAINS. MAN IF CURTAINS COULD SLAM YOU WOULD HEAR THIS SHIT
Love the peacock throne, great iconography
RIGHT forgot about this part of the story.
Man you need to get your eyes checked, Queen Weird Headgear
it's like an unatrractive burka or something. I know some girls who have a lot of fun with their burka or hijab or whatever you call the head thing. Like it's part of their culture and part of their personal fashion and I should be talking about how she talks to birds and stress or something but we all know she ain't getting stabbed
See?
"You seem like you're trained to go live in the woods while a vindictive and petty monarch hates the shit out of OWL
TREES ALIVE NOT ON BOARD WITH
what the shit why is there a forest of evil treants who authorized this
TREELIGATORS WHAT THE HELL
is this just her freakout or something or are Disney forests actually this fraught with peril WHAT IS UP WITH THE EYES
okay so she's just burdened with overactive imaginokay those are fucking adorable
shut up I'm allowed to like things that are cute
RED ALERT GUYS SHE'S NOT DEAD
hehe squirrel between the rabbit's ears
"I talk to animals. That's what I do."
Is she a druid or something?
Druid bard. Right, so she's neutral good then. Or chaotic neutral. Which hey, her life's in danger and she's singing to forest animals, that might not be far off.
Or neutral evil, but I doubt that's a plot twist I'm gonna get to see
WHY ARE THEY ALL SO CUTE shut up all of you stop judging me
You know I think I've seen that outfit before.
...she dumped Wis, didn't she
"Girl, we stay in the woods all the time. S'easy"
Bet we're going to meet seven dwarves. Dwarfs, sorry. We're doing things wrong today
Yes thank you for the journey but you know what's even better is destinations
COTTAGE
Oh come on, THAT's what's adorable? What about all those cute as hell forest critters
Does she have some kind of druid Leadership cause that is a crapton of animals
"I should go in. Dark places are awesome."
"I should go in. Intruding is awesome."
AND THEN THE REST OF THEN pfffhahahaaha
poor turtle
...seriously guys you HAVE to stop flipping out every time she goes OOOH.
cartoon squirrels sneezing is adorable
I bet we're gonna clean up now
ORPHANS. They'll be very happy that a strange lady invaded their house and moved all their stuff around.
this is kinda catchy
hehe alright I'm getting a kick out of AHHAHAHA that's how I clean too
wha tthe hell is she dusting it looks like an illithid typewriter
bet that's the first time Snow White and mind flayers have been mixed together
I'M SO HAPPY I HAVE A SOCK
Poor clothesrack I mean deer
um... so that thing with the turtle looked like something else. I have a dirty mind don't I
she's sweeping the dirt. She dumped Int too, didn't she
DWARFS
they dig dig dig in their mine it's what they like to do
holy eyelashes
ECHOES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY
HAHAHA
oh COME ON jewels don't make that noise wait where's your beard
they need moustaches is what they need
what a ninny
HI-HOOOOOOOOOOOO
I smell a song coming on
what's with the cranky one
HEHHAHAH self-flinging
wait what's the point of a key if you leave it there
not many words to this song, are there
wow that animation got really good with the lighting
okay so fat one in red is leader, and there's a clown bringing up the rear
poor turtle hehaha
That's a pretty epic door for a DOPEY that's the clown
seriously? GRUMPY? BASSHFUL? SLEEPY? you all have terrible names
wait why is one of them Doc? Is he actually a doctor? Must be the leader since his name's annnnnd we're just gonna take over all of your beds
HI-HOOOOOOOO
AHAHAHHAHA POOR TURTLE
doomed to be percussion
"RED ALERT DWARFS, EVERYONE RUN OFF NOW"
WHAT THE SHIT BOYS, THE LIT'S LIGHT
Chimney crickets? Those sound horrible
Gosh, that's a bad sign, his feet COME ON, HEN
Snow White you';d better run the hell away they're going to pickaxe the shit out of you
Poor Dopey has not invested any ranks in Move Silently. EVERY HOOK AND GRANNY
LOOK, THERE'S A FLOOR. OH MORADIN SAVE US CLEAN WINDOWS
WHO STOLE OUR COBWEBS. LOLTH IS BEHIND THIS
hidden in the cupboard look how sad that poor fella is
man learn nouns
wait there's a SNEEZY? man your name's even worse WIND
I found Grumpy
does the finger nose thing even work? I'm doing it right now and I'm not sneezing...
oh you birds are just shit disturbers
you just got volunteered, Dopey
I get the feeling he's the youngest. Not just because of the beardlack either
WELP THAT'S A GHOST EVERYONE STRESS OUT
wait can he not talk
she is goddamn lucky they picked up the sheet first
all females is whatnow?
I DUNNO hehahahahaa
you're fully dressed, kid, come on
"Uh, we suppose so... how DO we do?"
AHAHAHA how do you do what
oh come on how did she guess that it's the one name there that doesn't mean anything
they're friggin' adjectives, she might not even know your names and still
he never tried
"You must be Friendly."
...yeah let's rephrase that one
oh come on how does anyone know she's a princess
she's gonna wreak some vengeance, eh?
Grumpy, I'm curious, were you an alumnus of Salem?
COOK? SOLD.
GOOSEBERRY PIE? INVISIBLE VENGEANCE-WREAKING OMNISCIENT WITCHES NO LONGER MATTER
"Wash? What is this vile sorcery"
you nitwits deserve to be called dwarfs. You're not worthy of the V
"uh, we're letting you stay in our house, how about you DON'T set conditions, hmmm?"
She's still the worst-animated thing in the movie.
Okay now she's just being mean
You know, she was right the first time, they ARE children IT'S WET??? CALL THE NEWS, SOUND THE ALARM, WATER IS WET
this is the stupidest song I've heard in a long time and he's not even singing
BRBBBBLLBLB BRBBLLLBLBLB BRBLBLRBLBLBB
Tempting fate there, fella
So basically broad, good-natured, general appeal humor for the time. I'd bet some of these guys are caricatures of famous people of the era. Doc especially seems like he's a reference to something
OH COME ON THAT'S NOT HOW YOU BRUSH TEETH
hiccuped his own head off
I sense one very angry Queen is coming up
"Magic mirror, I am bloating... but won't you join me in a spot of gloating?"
Just a tip from someone who's played D&D, better proof would have been her FACE
Just saying, head in a box? Pretty convincing proof
Ooh, someone's going to a black magic lab. She's got books for both Black Arts AND Black Magic, eh?
Wait she's going to drink something to change clothes? Why doesn't she just... CHANGE CLOTHES
ingredients like these are what I love about this kind of magic. We used to hunt these sorts of things for magic items in D&D and it was lots of fun
Uh oh, this doesn't look good
huh, she had a hell of a lot of hair
WELP. When you're even scaring your familiar... yeah she definitely hit the mark on "classic witch" there.
You know you could have just gotten her to drink the same thing you did, I doubt she'd know how to change back
This music reminds me of something THAT INSTRUMENT IS ALL KINDS OF CRAZY AND I LOVE IT
Get him off the stage
AHAHAHA Dopey you do not help
hehe the high note
This whole song and dance is just the animators showing off, isn't it? Pretty good way to do so, though :D
HE TRIED TO BLOCK HIS OWN NOSE
Song's coming on again
I'd like this song more if it were in a lower key or register. And if she weren't trilling her voice that much. IT's got kind of a floaty lilting waltz thing going on and huh, I expected that to be longer
I wouldn't get comfortable if I were you, Dopey
did he just glare a fire dead
I just refuse to comment on all this silliness on principle
HE'S USING DOPEY'S BUTT AS A PILLOW boy it didn't take long for principle to go out the window
Yeah, that looks all kinds of unhealthy
THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU don't offer poison apples to your own familiar
you're an idiot, lady, it's a sleeping apple, not a death apple, she'll still be the fairest
so just so I'm clear, if they had already kissed once, would she be doomed?
okay maybe you're not a total idiot. That's positively macabre that plan is
She's got a hell of a setup down there for being Queen. I'd love to have seen more about THAT
So it seems Disney has a hell of a time animating ordinary humans, but allow for cartoonish proportions or deformity and suddenly they're on top of the game
hahaha back for seconds
shut up Grumpy you wanted that.
Way to uphold the old dwarfish pride there, fella
okay no THOSE THINGS are just creepy as sin
I want pie now
talented birds, spelling like that
Way to not act suspicious, witch
Odd how nobody says "dwarf"
Don't be dumb, Snow White, they specifically told you gooseberry. Don't know what that is, mind you
You know, animals, you could have just nabbed the death fruit
Come on birds, just spell it out for them
No wonder you needed a magic clothing swap, your Charisma's so bad it would punch you right in the Disguise. Seriously, can you say ONE THING without leering evilly?
News flash, boys: you don't get there in time.
The music's having a fun time pretending otherwise though :D
"Could you make a SHORTER wish, maybe?"
Well that's a morbid way to frame the scene...
And so arrives the pathetic fallacy, right on time
CREEPY BIRDS AGAIN
I know Doc's the leader but Grumpy's really the brains of the operation, isn't he
If you have to resort to using your Strength score, you may be a failure as a spellcaster. Just saying
Well that was pretty earned. OHHHH they were there for HER.
Guess you can't show the dead in a childrens' film. Well-implied, though. Someone got hoist by her own petard.
Sad dwarfs are a sad sight :(
Annnnd we're writing again
Wait how long was she in there for??? Was it magic, or did the apple keep her alive? Or do they have IV bags in dwarfdom... I'm overthinking this
"One heart... forgot the ly-rics..."
No, he's singing actual words, I just can't make them out. Hey there fella
Dude there's no point singing at her she can't hear you
or is this like, Prince credentials he has to present
Alright I know it's corny but it's still kind of sweet how frank and straightforward that was
Nice try, baldy
Huh. That's a pretty conveniently placed... castle in the sky??? Is she dead?
Let's go with no.
Alright! My first Disney movie! THE first Disney movie, I suppose. Second thoughts... not to follow, I guess, since we're doing another movie, but sometime in a soon-ish kind of way, let's say. :D
Some possibly-incorrect pedantry...i could be wrong: the use of "dwarves" as the plural for "dwarf" started with Tolkien in The Hobbit. Prior to that (and in other uses) dwarfs was considered correct. Since Disney's Snow White movie was just about the same time as The Hobbit, the modern usage probably hadn't caught on. (Again, I could be wrong...more folks versed in this will probably be along...hehe.) Welcome back!!!
ReplyDeleteThis is correct except for one detail: "Dwarf" is a very old word, old enough that you can find direct analogues for it in the other Northern languages to which English is a close relative. Words of that age ending in "-f" tend to turn the F to a V in the plural, like "wife" becoming "wives" or "loaf" becoming "loaves" or "elf" becoming "elves"; newer words like "proof" or "whiff" don't do the same thing. "Dwarfs," therefore, is WRONG usage, but until Tolkien came along nobody had ever bothered to point it out.
DeleteI seem to have a false memory of seeing "Dwarves" on a Snow White VHS cover. Don't know where that came from.
DeleteIn a previous life we were discussing how much SciFi you had to digest before watching Spaceballs/Galaxy Quest.
ReplyDeleteI suppose now we can argue when it's time to watch Shrek/Once Upon a Time/Enchanted :^)
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IMO, he can go ahead and watch Spaceballs... but Enchanted should wait until he has a couple other Disney "princess" movies under his belt, especially "Cinderella."
DeleteWhy do we keep jamming movies under belts, anyway?
DeleteShoplifting. :o
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I think he still needs to at least watch the original Planet of the Apes before he watches Space Balls.
DeleteI don't think I've ever seen this one straight through, just absorbed it in bits and pieces through cultural osmosis.
ReplyDeleteWelcome to the Disney canon! I think something like 3 generations of Americans have been raised on Disney animation, so it should be interesting to see you watch it evolve. For what it's worth, my film professor included Walt Disney on his list of 3 geniuses in American film (along with Hitchcock and Chaplin).
For what it's worth, my film professor included Walt Disney on his list of 3 geniuses in American film (along with Hitchcock and Chaplin)
DeleteIt doesn't say much about his opinion of American cinema that two of those "geniuses in American film" are Brits.
Okay, so important thing to realize, Jeremy: This was like... only the second or third attempt at doing realistically-proportioned humans in the history of animation. So... yeah, there are some weird elements that they shake off over the next 2-3 projects.
ReplyDeleteNot only that, but this was the first widely-released feature length animated film. There were one or two foreign ones that by modern standards would be considered short subjects and weren't remotely successful. So the whole thing, basically, is a huge experiment that turned out... impossibly huge. As a matter of fact I believe it was the most successful film of the year in 1937.
And yet despite that, it's still a really good, classic, vintage film. The next two in the canon, Pinocchio and Fantasia, also hold up very well. Most of the rest of the 1930s-40s era are "package features", a series of strung-together short subjects. The quality is uneven but none are outright terrible. There are also two more feature-length films from the 40s, Bambi, and Dumbo, that may be worth your time. The 50s, though... as far as I'm concerned Disney didn't put out a single bad film in that entire decade, you'll want to watch the lot. But we'll get there, and onward. You have a wonderful journey ahead of you. And I know I say that on every leg of your voyage into pop culture but... Disney is something else for me. A whole other level.
I recently watched the 1935 version of 'She' and wondered if they had stolen some ideas from Disney (the Evil Queen's clothes & headdress), but it seems it's been the other way round.
DeleteAlso the first time I saw the animation of Snow White and the Prince, I was reminded of how 30's black&white movie actors and actresses' make-up looked.
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The early Disney films used rotoscoping to animate their "regular" human characters, as they felt it would more realistically convey motion. Like Rachel Ghoul mentioned, they were experimenting a great deal and pretty much invented the entire library of techniques and processes we take for granted now. They did figure out pretty quickly that rotoscoping wasn't nearly as immersive or convincing as pose-to-pose, so things turned around over the next couple films.
ReplyDeleteJust a couple years ago I learned of a comic strip series tie-in that started a little before the movie came out, and though not all the dwarves got spotlighted, it went through the whole story and added a few scenes with the prince that didn't make it into the movie due to the difficulty of animating realistic characters, but the ideas for the scenes got recycled into Sleeping Beauty, so watch out for that.
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